Wednesday, November 12, 2008

gayness

So my church is vehemently against gay marriage. I'll start out by saying I don't disagree with the church and that I will support them. But why? There must be a good reason that we care who is allowed to marry. If I know that marriage is only valid between a man and woman, why should I care so much about what other people do? Will passing a law actually prevent people from being gay or doing gay things? Is it just a small step down a slippery slope, or is it a really big one? Are the reasons more about taxes? What rights do married people have that gay people shouldn't have? I wasn't aware that I had any more rights as a married person than a single person. If there were a proposition to abolish the Catholic church would we be encouraged to support that as well?

6 comments:

Queen Mum said...

Passing any laws that are against the laws of God is the first step to passing laws that favor iniquity. Remember in the BOM when the lawyers and then the people wanted the laws to favor the unrighteous? Then they started passing laws directly against the righteous to the point of their destruction. It is scary enough right now, but that is what I see. The abortion issue, now the marriage issue. The gun laws are becoming more of an issue. The government is now gaining stock in private companies. Socialism? Anarchy? Communisim? Where are we headed and how fast?

matt said...

Thanks Mom, I clears it up a bit.

S said...

Not to mention the fact that it's an attack on the sanctity of family. People tend to think if the law favors it then it's okay to do it. I'm so grateful that the American people in general are opposed to it. Every time it's been put to a vote it's been struck down. That says something about the general values of America.

Anonymous said...

There is also the discrimination concern where some are worried that if same-sex marriages are legally condoned the church will be required to perform them. I'm not sure that churches can be held to anti-discrimination laws, though. I guess it just opens the doors to all kinds of nastiness.

Johnner D. said...

"What rights do married people have that gay people shouldn't have? I wasn't aware that I had any more rights as a married person than a single person."

Uh, access to a spouse's medical, life and disability insurance; hospital visitation and medical decision-making privileges… workers' compensation survivor benefits; spousal benefits under retirement plans…the right to refuse to testify against one's spouse, custody/visitation of children in the event a spouse dies, etc.

I don't think marriage is anything more than a legal contract binding two parties. If churches don't want to marry a same sex couple they wouldn't be made to.

matt said...

Uh, access to a spouse's medical, life and disability insurance; hospital visitation and medical decision-making privileges… workers' compensation survivor benefits; spousal benefits under retirement plans…the right to refuse to testify against one's spouse, custody/visitation of children in the event a spouse dies, etc.

The only way most of these things would be considered rights is to force companies to redefine policies. I believe many of these companies have already redefined their policies to include common law spouses and gay couples. Regardless, as a republican I'm all about letting the companies make their own decisions. These "rights" have made enough fiscal sense to many companies that the policies have shifted in their favor already.

If a gay couple "has children", um....I'm pretty sure they only biologically belong to one of them anyway and that the right to visitation or custody should belong to the other biological parent.

Testifying against a spouse? I didn't know that was a law, it sounds good though. I'm not sure if I would defend this law for a gay couple though. When it comes down to a gay relationship, I don't condone it. I believe it's okay to be a pyromaniac, just not to go around burning things. If a gay couple breaks up...the world is rid of one more thing the Lord frowns upon. One in which no children are naturally a part of. So why bother changing a law to making a bad relationship less strained?